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A Shot Clock Isn't College Lacrosse's Magical Cure-All

Here we go again. If someone has an extra bullet lying around, all I'm saying is that I need just one.

The New York Times ran a piece late last week discussing the pace problem that is plaguing college lacrosse. It's probably worth a read if you enjoy reading things, but Brand's article -- like most that try and dissect the tempo issue at the collegiate level -- turns on only one issue: Shot clock or no shot clock?

The problem with framing the entire debate about opening up the college game around the implementation of a shot clock is that:

  1. Nobody seems to discuss the potentially terrible consequences to a shot clock; and
  2. Alternative options to increasing tempo are shelved.

Here's a quick pull from the piece:

“A team can’t rest on its laurels at the end of the game,” said Ryan Boyle, an attackman for the Boston Cannons who played at Princeton. “The shot clock keeps the action pressing.”

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[Major League Lacrosse] also has a 2-point arc 16 yards from the goal that encourages offensive risk and stretches defenses. Many believe a 2-point arc and a shot clock go hand in hand.

All of that is true. There's just one issue I have with applying it to college lacrosse right away: It works for Major League Lacrosse. The guys playing in that league are some of the best field players in the world. If college lacrosse adopts this, how does it impact Wagner and Mercer and all the rest of Division I's offensively and/or defensively inept teams? The residue of applying a rule that works well for the capable but may not work well for the incapable is sloppiness and possessions for the sake of possessions.

If you want a marketable product that people are going to enjoy watching, is sloppiness really a cornerstone that you want to establish? Everyone knows that Denver and Virginia and the rest of the elite could probably play with a shot clock and see little difference in performance; it's those outside of the elite that make me wonder if a shot clock is in the best interest of the game.

I floated a bunch of ideas about a year ago trying to address the plodding pace that a lot of teams choose to play. (Well, they weren't so much ideas as much as they were considerations. So what? You want to fight about it?) I think a lot of these things are kind of getting washed away for the quick fix of just putting in a shot clock and artificially changing the tempo of play. The end result everyone is trying to get to, though, is similar in process: The balance of power in college lacrosse right now is too far tilted toward a coaches game; the more it becomes a players game, the more preferential the results.

In short, we all want to see Peter Baum tear defenses in half; we all want to see Brian Karalunas strip a guy clean and go the other way. We don't want to see coaches use players as pawns in a chess match. If we did, we'd just drink gasoline and watch chess.

Which brings me to this quote from Notre Dame head coach Kevin Corrigan:

“To casual fans, the most interesting play is to see people attacking the goal and shooting a lot, but they don’t realize that the coach’s head is going to explode,” he said.

That's the problem, isn't it? This isn't about Kevin Corrigan; it's about the players, the fans, and the game. Everyone has adapted to what coaches have wanted to do for the last two decades. It's time that equilibrium is re-established and for coaches to adapt to whatever rule changes are put in place.

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I like that the player advocating for a shot clock and faster tempo of game went to Princeton.

by Cleavey44 on May 14, 2025 4:56 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

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by Hoya Suxa on May 14, 2025 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Depends on Where the 2-Point Line Is

Thought experiment: suppose the two-point line is 35 feet (11 2/3 yards) out. Suppose further that you’re Mike Murphy game-planning for an NCAA quarterfinal against Duke. There are five guys on Duke’s first two midfield units who can shoot >30 percent from downtown if given time and room. Choose your poison: defend the two-point line and leave your close D on an archipelago against Wolf, Walsh, and Dionne? Or slough off Rotanz, Turri, et al and hope your goalie comes off the bus locked in?

by burnspbesq on May 14, 2025 5:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Again

It’s not an issue for the Colgate and Dukes of the world; it’s the everybody else that I worry about.

I think it would make the game exciting for the elites, but there’d be a heavy class divide.

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by Hoya Suxa on May 14, 2025 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't Know About That

Imagine Mercer with one elite dodger, three guys who can bury it from downtown if they get a chance to set their feet, a horde of athletic poles, a solid keeper, and the second coming of Alex Smith. That’s a team with three elite talents and a bunch of role players, that can play with anybody under a shot clock/two-point system. I can recruit that team without ever setting foot north of Chevy Chase. Heck, I can recruit that team without ever setting foot in the Eastern time zone.

The other thing that has to happen in order for this to work, that none of us can control, is that kids’ attitudes have to change. The Luke Aarons of the world have to decide that being a four-year starter somewhere else is better than sitting behind Dan Wigrizer for a year, then sitting behind Kyle Turri for two years, and finally getting to start as a senior.

by burnspbesq on May 14, 2025 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've followed lacrosse for less time than most that frequent this site.

This is the first full year that I’ve been immersed in the entire college season instead of coming around for just the national tournament. I understand the need or want to cater to the casual fan, but ratings aren’t good for even the best, most well-known teams (getting beat out by women’s bowling on ESPN) and while growing the sport is the ultimate goal, I’m not sure that just adding goals is going to draw fans in.

Essentially, should college lacrosse make rules to increase the offense between teams that are mostly on television (the ACC schools, ’Cuse and Hopkins) at the detriment of the rest of the game? The more you speed up the tempo of the game, the more the talents of each team determine the outcome.

For me, personally, there couldn’t have been a better season to full immerse myself in college lacrosse than this year, what with the crazy final month and all. Does Canisius even make the national tournament if they can’t beat Siena in a 61-possession game for the MAAC Title? Doubtful.

I want the upsets. I want the varying tempo’s. I want anarchy. I want a team to be able to stall and slow down the game to minimize a more talented team’s chances of beating them. I don’t think there needs to be a change in lacrosse.

by Mike Rogers on May 14, 2025 5:48 PM EDT reply actions  

I think little guys can still pull upsets if you open up the game.

I’m just not sold that a shot clock opens it up the way people definitely want.

I’m all for tempo and getting the game out of stall and hold, I think there are just other ways that need to be considered with a shot clock.

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by Hoya Suxa on May 14, 2025 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shot Clock good for the growth of the game...

The more you speed up the tempo of the game, the more the talents of each team determine the outcome.
That is supposed to be the point, right? Who cares about Siena or Marist anyways? You have to break a few eggs to make an omelet. Why sacrifice greater excitement in the game for the possibility of a few more blowouts? Why sacrifice greater skill in the game? Stalling is not the natural flow of the game. By adopting a shot clock the positive aspects of the game are emphasized and the less positive deemphasized.

by ChristianBEAR on May 14, 2025 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cater to the casual fan?

I disagree. I’m not a life long, lacrosse loving maniac, but I’m far above the level of casual fan despite only being a fan for less than five years. However, I can tell you with an utter certainty that if all I’m going to see on the field is what I saw last year when Johns Hopkins play the lacrosse equivalent to Dean Smith’s old four corner stall Tarheels offense against Syracuse and eventually lost 5-4 in double overtime then I’m going to stop watching. It won’t be because I don’t love the game, but because it bores me to tears and pisses me off to see a sport (any sport) dragged down into the mud by coaching tactics designed to nullify superior athletic skill in order for a less skilled team to compete by a coach desperate to keep his job.

As for “fixing” the men’s game, I’ve come off the shot clock suggestion and have some other things to try. First and easiest is make the pouch on the cross shallower. If it’s easier for the defense to separate the ball from the man, I think a lot of things will work themselves out. I’d also like to see some consideration given to eliminating the back-up on missed shots. A shot clock fixes nothing if a team schemes around it and keeps a man parked at the end line and keeps bombing away from the top of the box hoping to get lucky and trying to keep possession on the back-up.

We will not rest until we see these capitalist octopuses annihilated.

-Che Marrone

by jpb531 on May 15, 2025 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes and No

I love the idea of a shallower crosse. We all enjoy seeing a guy make crazy moves through a crowd of defenders, but the average player handles the stick so well these days. A shallow crosse means it’s harder for one person to hold possession, meaning more passing and, I think, more shooting. In general, there’s more motion to the game, which is what I enjoy. A 5-4 game where everyone is active and trying to make plays is better than a 12-11 game where nobody can play D.

I disagree on the back-up, though. That’s one of those quirks that I’ve always loved with lacrosse. It’s great to see guys diving towards the line to try to win possession. I’m not big on the shot clock, but I’d hate to drop the back-up rule in any situation. That said, it probably would be too easy to run a guy behind the cage with 2 seconds left and just rip a “shot” out of bounds on purpose.

Fly, Eagles, fly...down, down the field!

by E Scott on May 15, 2025 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

to back up or not to back up

I don’t know that eliminating the back up would help solve the problem of coaches stifling the game, but I think it’s something that should be considered and experimented with in some preseason scrimmages.

The one thing that needs to be carefully considered is how coaches will work to find a loop hole in a rules change and find ways to keep an advantage. No disrespect to Kevin Corrigan, but he’s one of the worst things to happen to game.

I’ll agree with the sentiment that the final goal total doesn’t matter as much as the quality of play. A 5-4 game could be very entertaining if you’ve got two goalies playing out their skulls and saving everything in site and what not, and a 20-18 turn over fest of ineptitude will be a different form of not entertaining from low scoring stall ball zone choke-o-ramas.

We will not rest until we see these capitalist octopuses annihilated.

-Che Marrone

by jpb531 on May 15, 2025 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  


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